согласна полностью, что этот потолок должен быть поднят.
просто потому, что вычеты: процент, стоимость товара на момент приобретения (и чеки есть), шиппинг - сожрут половину или больше половины от гросс.
а если это бизнес, бизнес раcходы и их много, сожрут остальную прибыль. там ничего не останется.

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Capital Gains and Shipping: A Tax Perspective
Capital gains taxes are levied on the profits from the sale of capital assets, such as stocks, real estate, or a business. Shipping costs, on the other hand, are generally deductible business expenses, whether you're shipping goods to customers or receiving inventory.


видишь разницу, что значит Capital Gain?
а если продавец посылает по почте свои "сокровища",
то это не Capital gain, а простой бизнес - успешный или затратный. потому что шиппинг - это бизнес расход. и он очевиден!
так что, бухгалтер, не путай простых продавцов своим Capital Gain.

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As an eBay seller are you running a business or a hobby
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‎08-10-2021 05:01 PM

Adding on: ^^^^

Our CPA has us track:

Internet/Cable Wifi - 25% of the Bill
Cell Phone - 25% of the Bill
Health Insurance Premiums
Applicable Car Mileage and % of Maintenance (logged)
Business Loan Interest/LOC
Warehouse Lease (Monthly)
Business Insurance Premiums
Advertising
SEP-IRA Contributions
Office Supplies, Toner, Postage, etc
Tax Prep Fees
Home Office Deduction
UPS Postal Mailbox Annual Fee

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1. Cost of goods you sold.
2. Mileage traveled to buy items and going to the post office.
3. Ebay fees
4. Postage
5. Home office deduction
6. Shipping supplies costs
7. Internet connection fees
8. Cell phone fees
9. Medical insurance premiums if you are self employed and no covered by employer plan.
10. Contributions to a SEP plan.
11. Bank service charges
12. Business use of your car
13. Interest on debts used for business purposes
14. Office equipment expenses used for your business. (PC's, printers, camera, and ect)
15. Business related travel.

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Тетя Манга,
не надо мне тут прописные истины толковать. Продаешь вещь, которая у тебя была over a year, это capital gain or loss. Не буду ничего искать, нет времени на это. А хобби вообще сразу capital gain, без вычета расходов, вся сумма продажи. То, как ты там отчитываешься, мне неинтересно, я делаю правильно.

не буду спорить. этот спор безполезен.

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может быть, вы хотите связать жилетки, носки и распродать по сходной цене?
в свободное от форума время, конечно.
тогда это хобби.
или вы желаете продать мебель, инструменты и какие-то украшения? ... well, это - не хобби.


Hobby Income: What It Is and How It’s Taxed
Hobby income isn’t taxed like a business. Here's how to tell what type of income you have.


BY KATELYN WASHINGTON
LAST UPDATED NOVEMBER 8, 2024
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Hobby income differs from other types of income (like self-employment income and income from your side hustle), and the IRS taxes each type differently.

Determining whether your revenue stream qualifies as hobby income isn’t always easy. So, it is important to know your income type and how to claim it on your tax return. Reporting your income in the wrong area on your return can lead to processing delays and might even land you a tax penalty.

Hobby income: What is it?
Hobbies sometimes generate income. And hobby income is just that, i.e., income from a pastime or “hobby.”

For example, if woodworking is your hobby and people love your crafts (so much that they buy them), you might be able to claim your profits as hobby income. Hobbies aren’t limited to woodworking, however. Nearly any activity you enjoy can qualify as a hobby, including but not limited to:

Photography
Quilting
Crocheting
Content creation (videos, comics, etc.)
Making jewelry
However, if you intend to profit from your hobby, the IRS defines your income as business income. Likewise, if you treat your hobby like a business (e.g., hiring employees or paying for marketing), your earnings probably won't qualify as hobby income.

Is hobby income taxable?
The IRS requires you to report all your income; hobby income is no exception. You pay taxes on your income whether you profit from a hobby or a business. However, one key difference is that taxpayers with hobby income (not considered business income) can avoid self-employment taxes.

The federal self-employment tax is 15.3%, so you could save money if your income from an activity or pastime qualifies as hobby income. And if your activity generates less than $400 in 2025, you don’t need to pay self-employment taxes, even if your income doesn’t qualify as hobby income.

How much money can you make on a hobby before paying tax?
As stated, in most cases, you must report all your income (including hobby income) on your federal tax return. However, there are some exceptions. For example, if your total annual income (from all sources) is less than the 2025 standard deduction ($15,000 for single filers and $30,000 for joint filers), you might not be required to file a federal tax return.

So, what does this mean? If your total annual income was $35,000, and only $100 was from your hobby, you still must report your hobby income on your federal tax return.

Just keep in mind that this rule doesn't apply if the IRS considers your hobby to be a business. You must report self-employment income of $400 or more, even if that's the only income you received all year.

Hobby income vs. business income: Hobby income and business income each have pros and cons. While you can’t deduct expenses from hobby income, you must pay self-employment tax on business income. But rather than trying to determine which type of income you’d rather have, you should consider which type of income the IRS classifies it as.

Misclassifying income can have unpleasant consequences. For example, claiming hobby income as business income could trigger an audit, and claiming business income as hobby income could result in underpayment penalties.

Can you deduct hobby expenses?
While defining your activity as a hobby can help you avoid federal self-employment taxes, hobby income can increase your tax liability in some cases. That’s because you can’t deduct hobby expenses on your federal income tax return. So, if you had expenses related to your hobby (for example, crafting materials, travel expenses, etc.), you can't claim them on your tax return, which means you can’t subtract the costs from your taxable income.

Note: If you want to deduct your expenses, you will need to claim the income from your hobby as business income. But just because you consider your activity a business rather than a hobby doesn’t mean the IRS will agree. (More on that below).

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теперь про capital gain, а скорее всего - capital loss.
поскольку продается не новое, а подержанное. дешевле, чем покупали.
мебель пойдет. остальное барахло - навряд ли.
и стоимость покупки - как хочешь, так и определяй.
пишут не всю сумму - gross, а только сумму прибыли или сумму убытка.

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У меня нет времени и желания разжевывать. Короче, старые, стираные трусы вы продаете с убытком, но проблема остается - нет чека, никто его 10 лет хранить не будет, да он и выцветет, есть другой вопрос - вы продаете с прибылью, это касается нормальных вещей, а не говна, что вы собираете на уличных распродажах и в гудвилах. Короче, отстаньте от меня. Вы не понимаете элементарного, ведете свои говнопродажи, как тетка с рынка. Мне такое неинтересно.

я то отстану с удовольствием.
просто маловато желающих поговорить на тему.
well ... читайте инструкции.

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Ага. Конечно. Тут все такие, нее, мы работать не могЁм, мы говно с с гаражек продавать будем. А потом раз и пришла 1099, ну так ее в урну и с глаз долой. А потом через пару лет прилетит штраф за незадекларированный доход. Так вот мне не надо такого. Мне есть что терять.
В дебри лезть не буду. Не бизнес = хобби. Для бизнеса делайте Schedule C и платите self-employment tax.
Это у меня муж занялся чем-то сродни такого, ну и плюс продает скарб. И радостный такой – во, деньги прям идут. Ну пришлось разъяснить, что теперь машину выделим, под это мили будем писать в лог, из дома «вырежем» часть и поставим там стол и комп и будем списывать расходы, про телефон тоже самое, т.к. там все на арр задействовано. Он таким же, как он сказал. Они все покривились и сказали, что нет, это не надо ничего. Ну не надо и ладно. Мы все делаем.
Так и ваша дребедень. Пока все тихо. Но дождетесь. Все хреново. Возьмутся и за вас.

Зачем сразу в урну - надо просто следить за общим кол-вом продаж, тогда никакая 1099 не придет.

т.е продав на 200 долларей в мес говна заткнет потребности этой тетки? ЧЁ правда??? Ужас какой-то. А иначе придет 1099. А в следующем году 600 за год и аля-улю.

Причем тут потребности, может у человека просто много ненужного хлама дома и он его продать хочет. Ради потребностей надо бизнес заводить. :))

В 2026г $600 - сколько тут барахла продашь? Нисколько.
Да и в этом году особо не разгонишься.
Так что как я выше писала - если убыток и есть чеки, то Schedule 1, если доход и без разницы есть чеки или нет - Schedule D. Если это бизнес, то все сопутствующие формы для бизнеса (там и мили учитываются и дом.офис и свет можно рассчитать), но с уплатой self-employment tax. Недаром они начали эту "охоту на ведьм" с 1099-К, будут дрючить продаванов говна с гаражек.